Posts by The Rebel

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guest of honour

by zeb in

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my wife was invited by her past employer to a dinner as guest of honour.

guess..?

the dinner coincided with a meeting..

The Rebel

Hmmmm, this is challenging, being a guest of honour at a dinner meeting or attending a J.W meeting?

Well I guess it depends on the menu, was it a duck, a sainsburys chicken, or a delicious Owl in bread and orange sauce?

Seriously the spiritual food being served from Jehovers table at meetings or, a chicken that is inhumanly killed? Its wonderful having personal choice isn't it, and thank God I prefer Owl to Duck, but I am seriously working on being a vegetarian.

The challenges of leaving a J.W banquet, and the moral conscience of that decision never ends, but I hope your wife chooces to be a guest of honour with her former employees. That is if they are not her former non paying employees in the W,T world.

The Rebel.

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What happened to my Keith...

by The Rebel in

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having a free day today, i thought i would listen to some of my favourite music on you-tube.

it has just occurred to me why i wasn't enjoying the music i am listening to as much as i hoped.

i am listening to concerts of the band with origional members of the group having been replaced.. that's why as i post i am putting on " the who", but the origional stuff with " keith moon's" brilliant and explosive drumming.

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Diogensister " Love Keith Moon..that vid where he falls over his drums, he is SO TANKED but he still plays like a boss!!!

The Rebel:- What happened next? Keith then collapsed on the floor was carried off stage and Townsend asked the audience if there was a drummer in the audience. A guy from the audience put his hand up, and maybe he was no Keith Moon, but what a magical night that was for him.

Anyway as for my question what rock band having become huge has lost an origional member, and then has the same ENERGY? I honestly can't think of one,

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90 minutes from Wembley ......

by The Rebel in

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which ever country you come from, if you are a football fan you know of the f.a cup.

because the f.a cup is the oldest and most prestigious cup competition in the world.

or at least that's the way it was when i was a kid.. now this wonderful competition has been cheapened to a non event.

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Stan Livedeath " the crowd to welcome the team home finally put me of football for life"

The Rebel, Stan you sound like my wife, she hated it when as a family we attended a match, she never understood that 20, 000 grown men ( many of whom I am sure are accountants and bank managers ) could shout " The referee is a wanker"

Now I live far from Watford f.c so sadly attending matches is a special occasion for me, I am however lucky my wife appreciates that, even allows my boy of 10 to come with me. ( secretly she knows we are both shouting " the referee is a wanker" when he makes decisions that goes against the team)

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What happened to my Keith...

by The Rebel in

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having a free day today, i thought i would listen to some of my favourite music on you-tube.

it has just occurred to me why i wasn't enjoying the music i am listening to as much as i hoped.

i am listening to concerts of the band with origional members of the group having been replaced.. that's why as i post i am putting on " the who", but the origional stuff with " keith moon's" brilliant and explosive drumming.

The Rebel

Having a free day today, I thought I would listen to some of my favourite music on you-tube. It has just occurred to me why I wasn't enjoying the music I am listening to as much as I hoped. I am listening to concerts of the band with origional members of the group having been replaced.

That's why as I post I am putting on " The Who", but the origional stuff with " KEITH Moon's" brilliant and explosive drumming. And that's why I miss my " Keith"

So my question is whilst many great rock bands loose members, often due to untimely death, can you name one band that has the same energy when origional members are replaced?

The Rebel.

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90 minutes from Wembley ......

by The Rebel in

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which ever country you come from, if you are a football fan you know of the f.a cup.

because the f.a cup is the oldest and most prestigious cup competition in the world.

or at least that's the way it was when i was a kid.. now this wonderful competition has been cheapened to a non event.

The Rebel

Snugglebunny, that goal by Radford was voted 97th in the 100 greatest sporting moments.

Yes the F.A cup has made so many national heroes and given so many towns and cities a special place in English culture. I will never forget Jim Montgomory the Sunderland goalkeeping for his display against Leeds, in the 73 final. It's amazing every football fun knows about the 1953 Stanley Matthews final, even if we weren't born in 1953.

For a football fan F.A cup finals were once like our favourite songs, we always remember the year and what was happening when the match took place.

The Rebel.

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What sort of EX JW Book do you like to read?

by punkofnice in

what sort of ex jw books do you folks like to read?.

i want to write another one.. i'm wondering what my next project should be...............

The Rebel

Punk: ( Q) "what sort of EX JW books do you folks like to read?

The Rebel: ( A) as I recently mentiond on another thread the books that most helped me get over and understand my W.T exsperience were Defying Hitler by, Sabastian Hafner, ( this booked showed me how Hitler by beginning in such small ways turned a civilised, intelligent people in to a helpless, penned in flock of sleep. And by doing so this book also bought home to me that all I was doing on the ministry was exploiting people's psychological weaknesses.

The other book was The Captive Mind by Czeslaw Milosz, as this book helped me see the organisation for what it is, a man made totalitarian government pretending to be under the leadership of Jehover.

Punk :- " I want to write another book"

The Rebel, I would love to read an ex- witness book about all the folks that have left the W.T and made successful and happy life's. I think that would be a great book, and a thumps down to the Organisations claim there is no life outside the organisation.

So If you are going to write another book I think that's a great subject, and I am sure many posters on this forum would contribute with wonderful tales. If you want my story let's discuss royalty monies first :-)

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90 minutes from Wembley ......

by The Rebel in

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which ever country you come from, if you are a football fan you know of the f.a cup.

because the f.a cup is the oldest and most prestigious cup competition in the world.

or at least that's the way it was when i was a kid.. now this wonderful competition has been cheapened to a non event.

The Rebel

The day I witnessed Elton John cry.

The occasion the 1984 cup final, Watford v Everton, and as the teams walked out on to the Wembley turf, the T.V cameras focus on Elton John crying with joy as his beloved Watford f.c challenged for the F.A cup. Sat next to him his then wife, Renete Blaiel ( who insidently knew so little about football she cheered when Everton scored the winning goal) Sadly we the better team lost and Evertons goal was a fluke.:-)

Now it's sir Elton John and his new spouse is David Furnish, but one thing is still guaranteed if we get to the final again this year, Sir Elton and I will be there and the tears will roll down his and every Watford supporters cheeks if we win.

Personally I have supported Watford F.C since I was a little boy, there have been so many great times, climbing from the bottom of the 4th to finishing second in the top-flight, relegations and promotions have followed, and play-0ff finals have been won and lost, but winning the f.a cup would still be one of the greatest days in my life.

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90 minutes from Wembley ......

by The Rebel in

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which ever country you come from, if you are a football fan you know of the f.a cup.

because the f.a cup is the oldest and most prestigious cup competition in the world.

or at least that's the way it was when i was a kid.. now this wonderful competition has been cheapened to a non event.

The Rebel

Don't forget the giant killers Landy.

Colchester 3 Leeds United 2

Hereford 2 Newcastle United 1

Wrexhan 2 Arsenal 1

In my opinion getting to the final, and winning the trophy should be an objective of all the big clubs . It really disappoints me how Watford have taken the F.A cup so cheaply this season. The costs of the tickets are bloody expensive, the away comes are travelled to by loyal supporters at great cost and the manager fields a second rate side.

Anyway all Watford supporters and the whole town would love to get to the final this season. I hope we take the quarter final seriously, it would be pathetic if we field a weekend team against Leeds.

Personally I never imagined a time football could become so much about money that Watford f.c would be more interested finishing 7th rather than 12th in the premiership than winning the f.a cup. And that's essentially what it comes down to.

I would love an afternoon at Wembley in May, and it could be the first major honour the club has won since it was founded in 1881.

The Rebel.

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Do U Detest JWs.

by minimus in

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I am not going to waste my life detesting anyone, but my personal hell is trying to reason with those I feel have been victimized by a cult. Having said that many in the cult are not victims they realise what they teach is wrong, The way I handle that problem is I pity them having to get self worth by having to live a lie- personally living such a life I would go insane quickly.

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We're Ashya Kings parents right?

by The Rebel in

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do you remember the case?

jehovers witness parents did a runner without telling the medical staff caring for their seriously ill child and took him to receive proton therapy in praque as this treatment was not available in the u.k.. first most importantly the good news, the boy was declared cancer free last march.. anyway i am sure at the time this issue would have created a lot of heated debate on the forum, as it was a case that created a media frenzy, with the parents and their jehovers witness religious beliefs being heavily critizised .

however as i followed the case i couldn't help but admire the parents, as i felt they would have acted indepentedly of both the jehovers witness organisation and the u.k medical advice, having in my opinion seriously thought the matter through, and then doing they thought was the best way for treatment.. so if you remember the case my questions are:-.

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Firstly my sympathy to all posters or lurkers that have had to endure the unimaginable pain of a seriously sick child needing an operation

I noted when this story first broke public opinion in the U..K was firmly against the King family, now that public opinion seems to have changed. Imagine if today was the anniversary of a child's death, and a person looks back on the decision they made. I therefore feel I can't judge a family decision as I was not there during the decision making process nor do not know how the options were presented to a parent. So assuming parents want the best for the child, how can I judge? But I do no that I would never compromise my own ethical and moral conscience to do what i sincerely thought is best for my child. My only hope is that my decision was rational and I didn't learn to regret my decision. If later I discoverd my decision was based on being fed wrong information I would feel I was a murderer. In fact this is where I believe the G.B has a great deal of blood guilt and has caused terrible suffering to many parents.

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